Bruce Springsteen may have made the headlines recently for less-than-savoury reasons, but there's more positive news for fans of the rocker.
Barack and Michelle Obama's production company Higher Ground is teaming up with Spotify for an 8-part series that will see the former POTUS and Springsteen in conversation.
The first two episodes of 'Renegades: Born in the USA' are available on the streaming service now, and promise a "personal, in-depth discussion" between the two men, who have been friends since meeting on the campaign trail in 2008.
They'll shoot the breeze on an array of topics, "including race, fatherhood, marriage, and the state of America".
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The first episode, titled 'Outsiders: An Unlikely Friendship' sees them discuss their friendship and "growing up as outsiders".
Obama said: "How did we get here? How could we find our way back to a more unifying American story? That topic came to dominate so many of my conversations last year – with Michelle, with my daughters and with friends. And one of the friends just happened to be Mr. Bruce Springsteen.
"On the surface, Bruce and I don't have a lot in common. But over the years, what we’ve found is that we’ve got a shared sensibility. About work, about family and about America. In our own ways, Bruce and I have been on parallel journeys trying to understand this country that’s given us both so much. Trying to chronicle the stories of its people. Looking for a way to connect our own individual searches for meaning and truth and community with the larger story of America.”
The second episode 'American Skin: Race in the USA' sees them discuss race and racism in their home country.
Listen to the first two episodes below: