Anyone who has a mom with apathetic tendencies will be able to relate to this story.

Luke Evans’ interview with Seth Meyers on his late night talk show covered quite a lot, from shooting The Alienist in Budapest, to a discussion about Luke’s childhood obsession with death, and a look at some behind-the-scenes photos from Luke’s work, including a throwback to the set of The Hobbit.

It all concludes with the story of an awkward meal Evans had with Helen Mirren. The two actors are working on Luc Besson’s new movie Anna together and previously co-starred in Fast & Furious 8. Mirren played Evans’ character’s mother in the film, though they didn’t share any scenes together.

The chat about the iconic actress that is Helen Mirren starts at around 4:08 mins in.